Danielle Rousseau

Here's what I posted on ABC awhile back: First off, Danielle is my favorite character to debate about. At first I thought she was an Other who was being used to gain the trust of the Losties. That theory has since fallen aside and I have moved to an even stranger thought. Danielle, like Yemi in 3.05, is a manifestation of the Smoke Monster. Hear me through a little. It was always an issue for me that Danielle survived by herself on the island for 16-years (especially with clothes in decent shape). The thing that sealed it for me though was when she stated that she had never seen the Others. Now what mother wouldn't track down the people that kidnapped her daughter? It's not like they could go very far (they're on the same island for God sake). She should have found Otherville at SOME point in 16-years. At the very least, Alex should have heard Danielle walking around screaming her name in the woods. What I think happened is this: Danielle's team died of some illness (? caused by the incident ?) and she buried them all. Danielle herself then died but there was no one left to bury her. The Others rescued Alex and raised her as one of them. Danielle's body was left out in the open where it was accessible to the Smoke Monster (as opposed to the bodies that were in caves and inaccessible). This would be the sighting of Smokey that the podcast said we had missed between Psalms 23 and Live Together Die Alone. What really got me thinking that this was possible was when Eko’s tent started on fire. If a manifestation can create fire, then it can also shoot an arrow. Smokey, via Danielle, was trying to warn Sayid about the Others when Ben was captured. Which in turn, leads me to the opinion that the Others do not control the Smoke Monster. Whew, I think I’ll stop now. -nmb1blonde 11/17/06

I like this theory, and honestly, I've been thinking about it all day trying to find holes in it (can't help it, I'm a bit of a sceptic at heart) The points that work for me are that if Danielle IS a manifestation of smokey, then she would be a \"Sayid\" centered manifestation. Sayid was the first to meet her, has had the most contact with her, and almost every time we've seen her, Sayid has had an almost \"calming control\" over her. (like when Ana Lucia first saw her running through the jungle, Sayid said He'd \"handle it\" and made AL go back to camp, then they found Benry in the net) And fixing her music box, almost like an atonement. I don't know how Danielle ties into Sayid's past, or what type of manifestation she would be for him, but if she is a manifestation of smokey, I think she has to be in some way tied to Sayid. With that said, here are some things that I think don't add up...... Taking Claire's baby.......would a manifestation really care about a \"baby trade\" with the Others? If smokey is all knowing and all seeing, this act would be pointless. Leading Kate and Claire through the jungle in the Maternity Leave epi. Danielle seemed truely suprised at the Medical Hatch find, and seemed truely dissapointed when they found no one there, and did not find any info on Alex. Could smokey have been putting on a show for the sake of Kate and Claire? I think that's even too way out for Lost. Danielle does show up at some strange times, and does seem to have a \"thing\" for Sayid....but i can't quite wrap my head around the theory that she's a smokey.....yet............I of course could be completely wrong ;-> Thanks for getting me thinking!

Danielle took Aaron to distract the Losties from what was happening in the ocean. If they hadn't been busy trying to save the baby, odds are one of them would have seen either the flare or the boat lights. For some reason Smokey didn't want the Losties on the beach to know what was happening with the raft. Maybe because they would have attempted a rescue and the Tallies wouldn't have been found. Our thoughts and memories are nothing more then electro/chemical impulses. If Smokey had in fact taken over Danielle’s body in order to replicate her appearance it is possible that some of her most intense thoughts and memories were transferred into Smokey Danielle. I think that's why there was disappointment about not finding Alex. It was residual feelings from the live Danielle. Her not knowing about the hatch reinforces my point that she's dead. After 16-years she should know practically every inch of that island. Didn't Sayid spend some time in France after the war? I might be misremembering this but I thought he did. That could be why he is the one connected to Danielle, maybe there is an off island connection we're going to find out about. And I of course could also be completely wrong and probably am since there is no scientific explaination that covers a smoke being that can take the shape of humans :geeky:

OK LNB, you've really got me thinking about this one! :) Just some rambleing here, bear with me.... As far as the \"baby napping incident\", remember, Danielle first came to the camp to warn everyone about her sighting the black smoke, and the last time she saw this black smoke, the Others took Alex. So....the Losties all scramble to the caves to seek shelter from the impending coming of the Others. This act itself got the whole camp off the beach, which I agree, could have been done so the Losties would not see the flare over the Ocean (good thought! 8) ) but I still think she firstly did it to get a clear shot at taking Aaron. Which brings me back to \"why would smokie try to nap a baby?\". Your point about smokie retaining some memories of its \"possessed body\" makes some sense, and having your baby stolen would leave one heck of a residual chemical memory! Here's my point....sort of.... What if the black smoke Danielle saw the first time, when she thought the Others were coming, was not just black smoke from a fire, but Smokie itself?! Could Smokie have killed Danielle, like it did Eko, and brought baby Alex to the Others...or left baby Alex to be found by the Others? Killing Danielle for offing her crew, and sparing the baby? So, this brings me to ANOTHER question, hehe, if Danielle was killed by Smokie, why would Smokie take her form to communicate with the Losties? Could Danielle be possessing Smokie, and not the other way around? Alright, now I'm confusing myself...I'm going to sit on this for a while longer before I start sounding like a lunitic :laugh: :help:

Danielle possessing Smokey? Hmmm, that is a thought. That would mean that Danielle is in control of Smokey. Interesting. Will have to look at this one from all its angles! I was thinking about this some more too (surprise!). What if Smokey was trying to protect Aaron? There was no way of knowing that the Others weren’t going to attack the beach. Maybe Danielle was used in order to get the baby and keep him safe until the crisis was over. You know I love this subject!! Smokey and Danielle in one!!

This Is Just a Smokie Question ( Nothing About Aaron )! So, If Smokie Posseses Dead Bodies That Are Lying On The Ground Then Doesn't That Mean That Kelvin Should Be Showing Up Soon? And He Is Part Of Sayids Flashbacks Too, So He Could Appear To Him.

If he's really dead! He may appear to Desmond too.

Here is a collection of posts from LLB from when I first started geeking on Danielle. It includes quoted posts from other members: 6/12/06 Danielle Alright, since I can't sleep I'll just let you in on a few thoughts I have in regards to Danielle. I will warn you that I will be rambling for a while. It seems that our Losties have bought her story hook, line and sinker. But what if it's all a big fat lie? What if Danielle is actually part of Henry's group and is gathering info on the Losties. She has already infaltrated the group serveral times and seems to have earned their trust. I have several reasons while I think Danielle is an Other. First, would she really be able to survive on this island for 16 years by herself? What is she eating? Her clothes seemed in pretty decent shape. She was strong enough to over power Sayid. And, she seemed alright socially. What I mean by this last point is that she was able to talk to the Losties and interact with them like a "normal" person. I doubt if she had been isolated for 16 years that she would act this way. Second, Henry appears to be the leader of The Others yet he was caught in one of Danielle's traps. I don't buy this either. Don't you think he would be smarter than that? Even Kate figured out what Danielle is using as triggers. Do we really believe that Henry wouldn't know this trick? And, that was a pretty convicing act Henry gave when Sayid showed up. Looks different now that we know he is leading the Others doesn't it?? Third, Danielle claims that the Others stole her daughter. Wouldn't she have done everything imaginable to get her daughter back? I personally would terrorize the Others until they either killed me or let me join the group just to get me to stop. Plus what bothers me is that the Others call the girl Alex. Wouldn't they have renamed her so that if Alex hears Danielle calling for her Alex wouldn't figure out that Danielle was her mother? (Did that make any sense??) SO, in a nutshell, I think Danielle is an Other. I don't think she killed her group and I don't think Alex was stolen from her. Danielle took the Losties to the Black Rock in order to gain their trust. Everything that has happened to the Losties (besides them killing each other) has been well orchastrated by Henry and his henchmen. In short, Danielle is the mole that people have claimed exists on the island. 6/14/06 QUOTE=lockeslost,Jun 12 2006, 01:05 PM I dont see why she would have shot Henry if she was one of them, and why would she put out the Distress call. /QUOTE Exactly my point! If you wanted the Losties to believe you were not a part of Henry's group you would do the unexpected! The distress call was just a way to "prove" that she has been alone on the island for 16 years. IMO it was fake. I still don't think Danielle survived on her own for that long. I'm also leaning toward her lying about killing her crew. We have seen no proof of the bodies or the sickness that they supposedly had. As to shooting Henry, I have two points. First, if these people are scientists as I am tending to think, they would have some education in anatomy. This would allow them to know that a shot to the shoulder is likely to be non-fatal. Is there a risk involved? Of course, but it's worth it if they achieve their purpose of convincing the Losties of this new cover story. Second, I find it conveniently odd that Henry was hit in almost the exact same spot that Sawyer was hit when he was shot. This just leads me to believe that the Others know how to wound and not necessarily kill. 6/14/06 QUOTE=ThrowingDarts,Jun 12 2006, 04:14 AM Fenry trapped himself on purpose. It made his story more believable than if he were to just walk up to the Losties camp. Also, if she is with the Others, why didnt she take Aaron to them when she very easily could have? /QUOTE I agree Henry trapped himself on purpose. That was part of my original post. In regards to Aaron, surprise, I have a couple of thoughts on that as well! :lol: I've been thinking that when Danielle took Aaron she did it so that a blood sample could be taken from him. After the sample was obtained Aaron was returned to Claire since she can't leave or take him anywhere. I think they were -*test*-('")ing Aaron for the same markers that they were -*test*-('")ing Walt and Mike for. I also think it's possible that they let Walt go is because Aaron also genetically has whatever it is they are looking for in the children.

Just for thought: what if the rest of Danielles group of scientists did not die like she said but acually she (Danielle) and her group became a part of the "others". So saying that. Maybe all of her group is alive and well and working with the Others, they seem to have a few to many scientific minded people in there group. Maybe Danielle wanted to depart from the others because of differing point of views.(Like that was displayed by Juliette and Ben. All was not perfect in otherville before the losties arrived.) When she left or was made to leave. She could not take her daughter with her. So from Danielles point of view the others would have stole her daughter. And her group turned against her in her mind. they are dead. Maybe she was made a "deal" like Micheal was, like Jack was. Empty promises Im sure will not be fullfilled. So Im thinking yah Danielle could be a mole. I think she might have a screw lose. But dont all the "others" seem to be that way. :neutral: It will be interesting to see everything unfold in the upcoming weeks. WOW Alot of "Maybes" here, I am starting to go dizzy! :?

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